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Basarnas:
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News found Sukhoi Superjet 100 is reinforced from the report of the National SAR Agency (Basarnas). According to the National SAR Agency Chief Marshal TNI Daryatmo, a number of physical characteristics of the aircraft was found in the Stone Tread alleged Sukhoi crash site.

"There are fragments of the plane. There is an indication, that is writing Shukoi logo," he said at a press conference at Halim Perdanakusuma Airport, Thursday, May 10, 2012.

Shukoi logo located in the Stone Tread, Cidahu, it has the same color as the picture Shukoi Superjet 100 prototype made ​​by Russia. Location of its discovery on the slopes of the mountain which is still shrouded in mist.

Daryatmo shows an overview while the wreckage pieces with background fog. He admits there are difficulties of geographic and weather to reach a place that has a height of 5800 feet.

SAR forces are now at Mount Salak has moved to evacuate the victims. Victims of Mount Salak to be transported by Superpuma 332 from the scene to Cidahu, post primary rescue on Mount Salak. Of Cidahu, the victim will be transported to other small planes to Jakarta.

Reported missing since Wednesday, today at 08.30 am, the plane reportedly was found. Initial discovery of the captured signal search aircraft casualties. Location discovery is located in the north to south Stone Tread, Mount Salak.

Sukhoi's Ruins Have Been Found in Cidahu Cijeru Cliff

In this photo released by Sergey Dolya, a Sukhoi Superjet-100 takes off from Halim Perdanakusuma airport in Jakarta. Photo: AP

Search team from the air base Atang Sanjaya has managed to find the point of Sukhoi Superjet 100 airplane crash. The plane was expected to fall in the Cijeruk, Bogor.

"In the area of ​​Cijeruk, located about 1.7 nautical mile," said Chief Pentak Atang Sanjaya air base, Maj. Ali, as confirmed AFP on Thursday (5/10/2012).

Ali ensure the physical, the plane had been found. "There has been at the edge of the cliff," he explained.

The team seeks to immediately evacuate by land or air. "Are we trying to do," he said.

A relative of a passenger of the missing Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft cries at Halim Perdana Kusuma Airport in Jakarta. Photo: Reuters

Indonesian authorities say they have found the wreckage of a Russian Sukhoi passenger plane that had gone missing during a demonstration flight near a volcano on Indonesia's Java island yesterday, officials said.

There were 48 people on board, but it is not yet known if there are any survivors.

The wreckage was spotted on the edge of a cliff at 1650 metres by a search helicopter, officials said.
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In this photo released by Sergey Dolya, captain pilot Alexander Yablontsev, left and first officer Alexander Kotchetkov pose with unidentified cabin crew next to their Sukhoi Superjet-100.

In this photo released by Sergey Dolya, captain pilot Alexander Yablontsev, left and first officer Alexander Kotchetkov pose with unidentified cabin crew next to their Sukhoi Superjet-100. Photo: AP

Head of the Mist Mountain Salak National Park, Agus Priambudi, said the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft has been found. Based on the observation helicopter search team from the air, the crash site was discovered in Russia in the village of Cijeruk, District Cijeruk.

"The position of the Sukhoi aircraft is on a cliff near the peak of Salak, Cijeruk. Resort Salak one," said Agus told VIVAnews, Thursday, May 10, 2012. "The wreck of the plane and this time the victim has not been found," he said.

Meanwhile, the search coordinator of the plane, I Ketut Purwa, said the plane was found at coordinates 06.42.612 and 106.44.412 at an altitude of 2,500 feet, about 3.5 kilometers from Cijeruk.

"Found it," said Ketut. Once information is on the ground, aircraft search teams held a closed meeting immediately.

Sukhoi SSJ-100 was lost contact since Wednesday, May 9th, 2012 at 14:33 pm. The aircraft went missing after seeking permission from a height of 10,000 feet down to 6,000 feet. Coordinates last time contact was lost at 06:43:08 coordinates S and 106.43.15 BSN.

"The Super Puma (helicopter) we deployed this morning has spotted the Sukhoi plane in the Cijeruk area. For the time being we can say nothing about its condition because it was sighted from far away in the air," Ali Umri Lubis, a spokesman for a military airbase, told Agence France-Presse (AFP).

Indonesia's search and rescue agency said radio contact with the plane was lost about 2.50pm local time (5.50pm AEST) after the jet descended to 6000 feet around Mount Salak, a volcano 7254 feet above sea level, south of the capital Jakarta.

Shortly after dawn today a team of 40 rescuers headed towards Salak mountain, where the Superjet 100 went missing, an AFP reporter said, with helicopters also due to join in the search.
In this photo released by Sergey Dolya, a Sukhoi Superjet-100 takes off from Halim Perdanakusuma airport in Jakarta.



"If it had made an emergency landing we should have received some news via the radio or phone calls by passengers by now," Ketut Parwa, the capital's search and rescue agency chief, who is coordinating operations, said earlier.

Juanda, a 41-year old villager who goes by one name, said he was feeding his chickens when he heard a roar overhead.

"I looked up and saw a huge white plane moving unsteadily just slightly below the mountain summit. It was still way above the trees but veering left and right, and then it disappeared," he told AFP by telephone from Tenjolaya district near Salak mountain.

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"I heard a sound like firecrackers, but I couldn't see it anymore," he said.

Two helicopters searching for the plane yesterday evening were forced to turn back due to strong winds and bad weather, and Parwa said choppers would be sent out again after sunrise.

By midnight, hundreds of rescuers had set up three posts around the mountain as they prepared for search and rescue operations.

"We fear it might have crashed in a jungly area 2000 metres above sea level near Kawah Ratu," a crater on the slopes of Salak, Parwa added.

Businessmen, diplomats and journalists on board

The Superjet 100 plane - Russia's first all-new passenger jet since the fall of the Soviet Union - was carrying Indonesian businessmen, Russian embassy officials and journalists, Indonesian and Russian officials said.

Transport ministry spokesman Bambang Ervan said the plane was flying at 10,000 feet and asked for permission to descend to 6000 feet. "The last contact was when they asked for permission to descend from 10,000 feet to 6000 feet," Ervan said.

"The plane was doing the first flight around midday and returned to the airport, but when it took off the second time, it lost contact around Bogor," Ervan said.

Those on board included eight crew and 42 guests according to the latest figures from the Russian embassy in Jakarta, Sunaryo, chairman of Sukhoi's Indonesian agent PT Trimarga Rekatama, told a news conference.

At least 40 people on board the jet were Indonesian, the Jakarta Globe reported, citing local officials.

An Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade spokesman said consular officials were still trying to confirm if any Australians were on board.

There were eight Russians on board, including pilots and technicians, Dmitry Solodov from the embassy said earlier.

The French embassy in Jakarta confirmed there was one French national aboard.

Indonesia's search and rescue agency was looking for the jet near one of many volcanoes that form the backbone of Indonesia's main island. Air traffic accidents are common in the sprawling South-East Asian archipelago of 17,000 islands.

"Salak's a big mountain, I didn't hear anything," said Jocean Bowler, an American running an organic farm on the slopes of the mountain, visible from the capital on clear days and a popular tourist destination.

Rear Admiral Iskandar Sitompul, the spokesman for TNI, Indonesia's Armed Forces, told the Globe is was likely that the plane crashed as it only had fuel for a four-hour flight.

Olga Kayukova, a spokeswoman for Russia's United Aircraft Corporation, told Reuters the Sukhoi Superjet-100 was on a second flight as part of a demonstration programme in Indonesia.

"The first flight was carried out in a normal mode ... The pre-flight preparations were carried out in full and the plane was completely ready to fly," she said.

"According to information from Indonesia, the contact with the plane was broken after 20 minutes from the take-off, at 1435 local time," Kayukova said.

Russian PM establishes commission

The Russian Prime Minister, Dmitry Medvedev, has established a commission to investigate the disappearance, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti said.

Sukhoi, which has orders for 170 planes worldwide, plans to produce up to 1000 superjets, primarily for foreign markets. It aimed to sell 42 planes to Indonesia, which is seeing a fast expanding aviation market to tap travel by a growing middle class in the world's fourth most populous nation.

The jet was developed with Western design advice and technology from Boeing and Italy's Finmeccanica , as well as avionics and engine equipment from French aerospace firms Thales and Safran.

Built in a converted corner of a Sukhoi fighter factory in Siberia, it was first unveiled in 2007 as part of a drive to curb Russia's dependence on oil and gas and restore pride in its aviation industry, but ran into a series of development delays.

The Superjet 100, with a capacity of 68-103 passengers, is already in service with Russia's Aeroflot and Armenian carrier Armavia and is half way through a 15,500-km, six-nation Asian tour to try to drum up more international customers.

The aircraft is being marketed internationally in partnership with Finmeccanica subsidiary Alenia Aeronautica.

Sukhoi Missing, DVI in the search for survivors

RI State Police Headquarters prepared to lower the disaster victim identification team (Disaster Victim Identification / DVI) following the loss of the aircraft Sukhoi Superjet L100 demo when flying around Mount Salak, Bogor, West Java, at around 14:30 pm.

"Yes definitely, Police Headquarters prepared to lower the DVI team to identify the victims," said Chief of Public Information (Head of passenger) Police Commissioner Pol Boy Rafli Amar here on Wednesday.

Regarding the number of members who will be deployed in the DVI team, Boy did not specify more clearly the amount.

"Not many experts are clear that only we are ready to help," said Boy.

DVI is a procedure to identify victims died from the disaster that can be legally accountable for the legal and scientific as well as referring to the INTERPOL DVI Guideline.

DVI procedures applied in the event of disasters that cause mass casualties, such as bus and plane crash, building collapse or fire, accident, marine vessels and acts of terrorism.

Can be applied to disaster victims and the number of small scale and can also be applied to other incidents in the search for survivors.

Sukhoi Missing, they lost contact information

Base Commander Air First Marshall Halim Perdana Kusuma Adang Supriyadi  confirms the loss of contact with the aircraft Sukhoi Superjet 100 berpenumpang occurred 14:33 pm. Passengers carrying 40 people, with eight Russian citizens and 40 citizens of Indonesia.

This is expressed by Adang via telephone on Wednesday (9/5).

"I see there are two Flight 40 Data of Indonesia and the Russian crew of 8 people. At 14:21 pm they fly, and they lost contact information 14:33, just get there we will coordinate with security forces in Bogor," he said.

He said the Halim air base will open a shelter at the door 7, for the purposes of search and evacuation. Adang said, the communication delay for four hours more, he could predict the most likely the plane crashed.

"Command Post, we have prepared, then if it takes place for the evacuation of their bodies would help it. But maybe we'll set up the hangar in preparation for their arrival (the corpse).

Missing Sukhoi's Passengers are representative of the Russian embassy

Sukhoi aircraft that allegedly crashed SG100 containing 46 passengers, including crew. Most of the passengers is a representative of the Russian embassy and the businessman who is trying the new aircraft.

"The plane was carrying 46 passengers and the aircraft is being tried by a businessman and a few people from the Russian embassy," said Public Relations of the Ministry of Transportation, Bambang S Ervan when contacted Metro, Wednesday evening (9/5).

Bambang said of the reports received, the aircraft was in the pilot to fly for 30 minutes around the area of ​​Bogor, after taking off from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport.

"The plane lost contact at around 16.00 pm, which should have landed back to Halim Perdanakusuma," said Bambang.

He also said the plane took off around 14.00.

Sukhoi Missing, Search Focused Around Mount Salak

Head of the National SAR (Basarnas) Marshal TNI Daryatmo said Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft search focused around Mount Salak, in the border district Sukabumi and Bogor, West Java.

"Team Search and Rescue (SAR) has begun to move on Wednesday (9/5) tonight to do a search plane berpenumpang 46 people, the flight crew of eight people (Russians) and 36 passengers (citizens of Indonesia)," said Daryatmo .

The number of SAR teams involved in the search plane, she said, reaching 100 people. "From Basarnas (Jakarta) as many as 25 people, SAR of Bandung as many as 25 people, not to mention the help of the Army and the local Brimob," he said.

He describes his Russian-built aircraft took off from Halim Perdanakusuma Airport at around 14.00 pm. But around 14:33 pm reportedly lost contact. "The latest news on the plane around Mount Salak. Therefore, we focus on doing a search on Mount Salak," he said.

According to PR Basarnas dashing Carey, Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft lost contact after taking off from Halim Perdanakusuma airport at an altitude of 6,000 feet. "Lost contact at an altitude of 10,000 feet to 6,000 feet," he said.

Sukhoi Airplane's Demonstration Flight in Indonesia Turned Into Crash

THERE are fears a Russian jet with 46 people on board may have crashed south of Jakarta.

The Sukhoi Superjet 100 was on a demonstration flight south of the Indonesian capital Jakarta when it went missing at about 2.50pm local time (5.50pm AEST), almost an hour after leaving from east Jakarta's Halim Perdanakusuma airport.

A spokesman for the national search and rescue agency told AAP that air traffic control authorities had lost contact with the plane as it descended near Bogor, a mountainous area south of the Indonesian capital.

''At this moment it is still missing,'' he said.

''It left from Halim Perdanakusuma airport at 2pm and then lost contact at 2.50pm.

''The last contact was made when the plane was descending from 10,000 feet to 6000 feet. We're still searching.''

Indonesian Transport Ministry spokesman Bambang Ervan said the plane had carried out another test flight earlier in the day, carrying mostly Indonesian government officials.

''We can't say it crashed just yet,'' he said.

''The plane was cleared for two flights. The first flight carried government officials and the second flight was for business people and representatives from Russian embassy.''

Three district police stations contacted by AAP said no reports of a plane crash had yet been received.

The Russian embassy had said in a statement earlier this week that a Sukhoi Superjet 100 demonstration would take place in Jakarta today.

The embassy could not be immediately reached for comment.

The Sukhoi Superjet, a mid-range airliner that carries up to 100 people, has been presented as Russia's contender to compete in the international civil aviation industry.

After its maiden flight in 2008, deliveries were delayed several times, but the planes are already in use with Russia's largest carrier Aeroflot and have been ordered by smaller airlines in Russia and abroad.

It claims to offer lower operating costs than rival aircraft made by Brazil's Embraer and Canada's Bombardier.

Missing Sukhoi Superjet is Russia's Great Aviation Hope
May 09, 2012
A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 performs during the MAKS 2009 international aerospace show outside Moscow in Zhukovsky in this 2009 file photo. A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 on a demonstration flight with 46 people on board went missing south of the Indonesian capital Jakarta on Wednesday, a search and rescue official said. (AFP Photo) A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 performs during the MAKS 2009 international aerospace show outside Moscow in Zhukovsky in this 2009 file photo. A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 on a demonstration flight with 46 people on board went missing south of the Indonesian capital Jakarta on Wednesday, a search and rescue official said. (AFP Photo)

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The Sukhoi Superjet 100, the Russian jet which has gone missing in Indonesia, is a brand new passenger plane built by Russia in a bid to lift its civil aviation industry from a post-Soviet crisis.

The Superjet only made its first commercial flight last year and if a major accident is confirmed it would be the first disaster to involve the aircraft, which is made by legendary Russian planemakers Sukhoi.

The plane is crucial to Russia’s hopes of becoming a major player in the modern aviation market and improving its image in an industry scarred by frequent crashes of aging Soviet-era jets.

The mid-range Superjet airliner is designed to carry up to 98 passengers and is a direct rival of similar aircraft produced by Brazil’s Embraer and Canada’s Bombardier.

So far it is being flown by two airlines, Russia’s Aeroflot and Armenia’s Armavia, although orders have been confirmed with several more. Its first commercial flight was operated by Armavia in April 2011 and Aeroflot followed later that year.

The demonstration flight in Indonesia was part of a tour called Asian Roadshow aimed at promoting the aircraft abroad that started May 3 and earlier took in Kazakhstan and Pakistan. It was due to go on to Laos and Vietnam.

In August last year, Indonesian regional carrier Sky Aviation agreed to buy 12 of the planes, with deliveries due to begin in 2012.

The Superjet project is a joint venture between Sukhoi and Italy’s Alenia Aeronautica, which is part of the aerospace and defence giant Finmeccanica.

Alenia owns 25 percent plus one share of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft, the Sukhoi unit developing the jet, as well as 51 percent of Superjet International, which is handling sales of the aircraft.

However the plane has experienced problems while being flown by Russian flag carrier Aeroflot, which has been under heavy pressure from the government to add more Russian planes to its fleet.

In March, a plane had to cut short a scheduled flight after it encountered problems with its undercarriage. Aeroflot’s first Superjet plane also spent several weeks grounded upon delivery because of an air conditioning problem.

Sukhoi is a giant holding with a history going back to the 1930s in the Soviet Union. It employs 26,000 people and based in the remote Far Eastern city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur and also makes military fighter jets.

Sukhoi Crashes, Superjet 100-95, registration RA-97004 Indonesia , Jakarta, Mount Salak

A Sukhoi Sukhoi Superjet 100-95, registration RA-97004 performing a demonstration flight from Jakarta Halim Perdanakusuma Airport to Jakarta Halim Perdanakusuma Airport (Indonesia) with 36 passengers, 6 crew and 2 Sukhoi officials, was enroute near Mount Salak and Bogor about 36nm south of Jakarta about 30 minutes into the flight when the radio contact with the aircraft was lost. The aircraft has not turned up at Jakarta or any other airport in the area and would have run out of fuel by now.

No ELT signal has been located so far.
Jakarta - The aircraft was on a demonstration flight in Jakarta when it went off radar screens on Wednesday. 44 people are on board including 8 Russians and 36 foreigners.


Ria Novosti states that a high-altitude crash or possible hijacking have not been ruled out by officials. The plane did not return to the airport at the scheduled time. Apparently by that time, fuel would have been totally spent. An Indonesian aviation official stated that shortly before going off radar, the crew had asked for permission to descend. Permitted was granted to descend from an altitude of 10,000 feet down to 6,000 - moving down in a rightward direction. The official states that there is a 6,200-foot high mountain in the area where the plane has gone missing, about 40 nautical miles from Jakarta airport. While the plane could have crashed, Indonesian authorities have not yet ruled out the possibility that it was hijacked. Of the 44 people on the aircraft, 8 are Russian nationals and 36 are foreign nationals, mostly representing major airline companies. The crew of the aircraft are Russian. Later reports stated that no one on board can be reached via telephone. The Sukhoi SuperJet-100 is on an Asian demonstrative tour including 6 countries. The plane arrived in Indonesia on May 9, which is the fourth stop on its tour. Previously the aircraft visited Myanmar, Pakistan and Kazakhstan. Following Jakarta, the tour was supposed to continue in Laos and Vietnam. There were two previous half-hour demonstration flights in Jakarta with the first taking representatives from VEB-Leasing and a Russian insurance agency. The second demonstration took potential buyers including representatives of Indonesia's Batavia, Pelita, Air Aviastar and Sriwijaya Air. Latest update: Helicopters have been sent out to look for the aircraft with no success.




Indonesian Authorities reported the aircraft was enroute at 10,000 feet near Mount Salak when at about 15:30L (08:30Z) the crew requested and was cleared to descend to 6,000 feet. This proved to be the last radio transmission. Radar contact was lost when the aircraft was in a right hand turn descending through 6,200 feet. A search operation has been initiated and is mounting, first search flights have not yet found any trace of the aircraft. The search flights are currently suspended due to nightfall in Indonesia.

Mount Salak is 2,211 meters/7254 feet high, nearby Mount Gede is 2,958 meters/9,705 feet high.

At 15:30L the local weatherstation in Bogor reported visibility at 9000 meters (increasing to 10000 meters in the next reading), temperature at 31 degrees C, dew point at 25 degrees C, humidity 70% and winds arund 5 knots from northeast, no precipitation. In the morning the weatherstation had reported low visibility around about 2000 meters.


Re Paul

By Cpt Pam on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:48Z


"I've had ATC almost vector me into a mountain going into Halim one day"

You must be one of Ibu Susi's guys, yes have to be careful with Halim ATC; a few stories came to my attention recently. Anyway Ibu Susi is lucky to have some real talent flying with her.





SU95 missing in Indonesia

By ZoSo on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:45Z


Russian news agencies are busy with Red Army military parade taking place today on Red Square



ATC

By Paul on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:43Z


I've had ATC almost vector me into a mountain going into Halim one day.



ATC and others...

By JP on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:38Z


We may question ATC decision, but there are other things that have to be checked as well:

1. Flight plan considering terrain conditions (it was demo flight, so it could be improvised)

2. Situational awareness of pilots incl. flight conditions (VFC?)

3. Was it special demo machine or standard operational a/c?
Therefore EGPWS present? working? other avionics?

4. Last not least - technical issue bringing the plane down(tech problems, birds ingestion, etc.)

As you can see from points 1-3, lack of planning/flying skills
MIGHT BE the issue.

However don't blame ATC or pilots too soon. My thoughts are with all on board.



Crash

By Cpt Pamela on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:36Z


Hmmm descent to 6000 feet in that area. Did Halim ATC clear that?
What about GPWS?? Seems flight crew was pre-occupied. Sad news here in Indonesia!

Pam





Local witness

By Didi on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:27Z


No further news on this missing plane so far.
But a local farmer said that around 4 PM, he saw a plane fly at low altitude, coming from Mt. Salak and then turn right toward Jasinga area (see the map). Provide the witness is correct, it means that, perhaps, at least the plane does not hit the mountain. Hope everything is OK with them all.





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:25Z


A demonstration flight? Aircraft missing? Wow I think Sukhoi could be closing soon. There goes Michael O'Leary's 'plans' of buying them.

Terrain clearance is the PICs responsibility, not ATCs AFAIK. But I won't speculate.

Hope they find them.



CFIT

By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:18Z


Cfit is and remains human error, normally done by pilots but many times also atc gives some crazy clearances.




No EGPWS?

By Sydy on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:15Z


Gents,

If... And it is just a if... If you are correct and it is a cfit, doesn't it have EGPWS?

What kind of avionics does it have? Sounds like poor...

Let's wait...

My condolences to all involved,

Sydy



EGPWS

By Jeropiga on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:13Z


It could have been a CFIT... but... what about EGPWS warnings? The EGPWS is essentialy build to prevent such acidents...





By @ anonymous on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:05Z


CFIT = controlled flight into terrain
aircraft has no malfunction at time of impact
crew is just not aware of the situation and what they are doing





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:03Z


ATC has a roll to play with possible warning them, however if a plane / crew want to decend into an area were mountains are above them its down to them, ATC clear (no other traffic issues etc) them down, I would have thought that giving a warning along the lines of are you sure? amy giving a bit of a heads up regarding heights of peaks in the area would be expected from atc.

we dont know really what happened with if it, was it request to decend, or what was said, also having a inflight emergency in the area may also have caused a aproblem and distraction.,

Not enough is known yet to be sure,








VFR

By Sandro on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:02Z


Bad news, keeping the fingers crossed too! It would be interesting to know if this flight was performed under VFR? If yes, was visibility sufficient within the mountains?





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 12:00Z


CFIT Controlled flight into terrain



CFIT

By Jof on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:58Z


CFIT is Controlled Flight Into Terrain. A distinct possibility when flying amongst the mountains rather than over them.



Distress call

By James Atkinson on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:58Z


Al Jazeera English is reporting that the aircraft issued a distress call before radar and radio contact was lost.

They don't offer a verified source for that tidbit, however. Doesn't appear to be Russian news agency Ria Novosti, which is the source for other parts of the Al Jazeera story.



CFIT

By Hendrik on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:58Z


Controlled Flight Into Terrain





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:55Z


What is 'CFIT' ??





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:51Z


if it was cleared to 6000 feet, there was ATC. With ATC, how is a CFIT possible? Isnt it atc mistake? then i also wonder, what the GPWS is there for.





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:37Z


If it was CFIT as i sitting in my DIY crash investigation chair in my office thinks, the for Sukhoi the only negative would be the competance of their pilots and SOP regarding joy rides, sorry demo flights.

it could have been any plane type therefore the fact its a Sukhoi is no factor in this incident.

Although if the same attention and competance that this flight crew have exhibited had it been CFIT is anything to go by it will influance peoples option of Sukhoi as a whole oganisation.

and therefore damage its credabilty as a safe outfit.





By Hook on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:37Z


Oh no. So sad. i'll keep my fingers crossed.






By Tim on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:29Z


As usual we should wait for the investigation, but in my opinion it was a CFIT.

1. Aircraft was in the vicinity of Mount Salak (7500 ft) and Mount Gede (9000 ft).

2. Aircraft was cleared to descend to 6000 feet.

3. Last radar contact was at 6200 feet.

I think they perished in the mountains. Makes not a good impression of the new Sukhoi Jet. Moreover it was a demonstration flight!





re:Superbuggg

By Al on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:15Z


You are right :)

My prayers go out to them





By (anonymous) on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:12Z


44 people





By Superbuggg on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 11:04Z


This is not good FOR THE 46 PEOPLE ON BOARD!



CFIT

By leon on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 10:58Z


sounds alot like CFIT ...





By Al on Wednesday, May 9th 2012 10:37Z

This is not good for Sukhoi.